ryan should try to shake the things up. and go after obama's record too. dagen: doug, what about the getting -- you talked about how romney needs to present himself and how he needs to portray himself? how do you do that? because one of the criticisms of the romney campaign has been how they're spending their money and the advertising they have been doing which has been lackluster to say the least. >> you are pointing dagen to one of the areas i think we both feel they could improve. i think they need ads that speak directly to what i was saying before and what john has been talking about both here and elsewhere, which is how the romney plan reducing taxes, regulation, cutting spending, will result in a better america and a better life for the american people. >> yeah, dagen, if you were to go get an interview for a job in any business, you would not go in there and sit during the interview trashing the guy that had the job before you. you would try to sell your potential boss, here's what i bring to the table, what i would do, if you hire me to this job.